Saturday, 1 January 2000

Proposal: Optimizing Taxi Services in Discovery Bay, Hong Kong (Part II)

Part I is here. It is the AI summary of the January 2026 Notice from HKRI.

My own comments (Peter Forsythe, member Siena One VOC):

The main concern from those against the proposal seems to be safety. 

I will focus my comments on the safety issue. 

1. "There are no Solutions. Only Trade-Offs". We can have more convenience, but it will impact safety. The only way to have complete safety is with no traffic at all; but that means zero convenience. We do not expect, as Discovery Bay, or as Hong Kong, that we have 100% safety, with 100% convenience. We trade off the convenience of having traffic, against a higher accident (= lower safety) rate. 

2. Safety vs Convenience. We have accepted, in DB, a higher safety risk for the benefit of having more convenience. I doubt DB residents today would want to give up the tunnel, the buses and the North Plaza taxi rank. Even those who were very much against all these things when they were proposed. 

3. Are taxis worth the risk? The current debate is whether the extra safety risk of increasing the number of taxis circulating in DB is worth the extra convenience, especially to the elderly, caregivers, late-night travellers, etc.... 

4. Safety in Numbers: Hong Kong is a safe place to travel. 

According to the Hong Kong Transport Department and other international data, Hong Kong’s fatality rate per 100,000 population is significantly lower than many other urban hubs. 

CityRoad Traffic Fatalities (per million population)
 (2024)~11.7 (1.17 per 100k)
 (2024)25
 (2024)27
 (2024)31
 (2024)32
 (2023)46
 (2023)86

More here.

Reference figures:

  • Hong Kong population (2024): 7,534,200
  • Discovery Bay population (2021): 19,336 (= 0.25% of Hong Kong)
  • Vehicles in Hong Kong (2024): 808,771
  • Vehicles in DB: 2,700 (= 0.33% of Hong Kong)
  • Accidents (2024): 17,189.  2% of total vehicles (trend is downward)
  • Fatalities (2024): 83. 

From the Reference figures: 

  • Accidents in DB: 56 per year, ~ 5/month
  • Fatalities in DB: 0.21 per year, ~ 1 every 5 years. 

[Note: I don't know the actual figures. If anyone does, could they let me know and I'll update]

Question now:

How much will allowing taxis to deliver door-to-door in DB, increase the traffic in DB? 

And how much will that increase in traffic affect the increase in risk?

It seems to me likely that they number of taxis per day may not increase substantially. Instead it is likely that the taxis currently dropping off in North Plaza may go elsewhere in DB. How many of them may do this, I don't know. Perhaps there's an estimate from the PLG or DBSML. 

Let's assume: taxis going internal to DB, as opposed to dropping off in North Plaza is 50%. The total daily traffic is 2,700, made up of delivery vans, taxis and other commercial vehicles. My guess is that half of the total are taxis.  So...

Guesstimate: total taxis per day: 1,350 (half of 2,700). 

Of which half go into DB internal: 675.

Assume the same accident rate as above Reference: 2%. 

Extra accidents in DB per year: ~13. Or ~ 1 per month. 

Extra deaths from car accidents in DB: one more every 1,700 years. Or thereabouts. 

I'm sure that there are figures relating to total vehicles and total taxis in DB that I've got wrong. If anyone knows them let me know. 

However, I doubt I've underestimated them. 

The question then becomes: 

Is it worth the extra convenience for those DB residents identified in the Proposal, to have an increased safety risk as above?

And also: how to measure "convenience"? Will there be people, perhaps the elderly, saved by having access to a taxi? I suspect so, but can't guess the number. 

Overall, it seems to me that the increased risk of taxis allowed into DB internal is relatively small. 

By the way: the traffic safety risk seems to be getting smaller over Hong Kong, a trend that will presumably hold true in DB as well: "Hong Kong fatal road accidents down 58% despite more cars" China Daily, 18 February, 2025.

Proposal: Optimizing Taxi Services in Discovery Bay, Hong Kong (Part I)

Note to readers: this is a bit off topic for this blog, but is a handy place to put some thoughts on an issue that's being discussed in our normally car-free Discovery Bay. It's in the public realm, so I put my thoughts here for convenience. Please excuse. 
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For VOC members: I asked AI to consolidate the jpgs sent to us by our Siena One VOC chair. If you have any comments, I'd be happy to add them to the bottom, either with your name or anonymously. Just send to my email. 

Full disclosure. I'm in favour of the proposal. It does not affect me either way, but I think it will help many of our fellow residents with extra convenience. If there's a vote at any stage, then I'll vote in favour. 

AI said: 
"Here is a cleaned-up, consolidated, and properly structured version of the document based on the provided text excerpts and images. I've organized it into a logical flow, removed repetitions, fixed typos/OCR errors, improved formatting, and presented it as a coherent proposal document."

For reference and discussion. Note: I haven't included the Appendices. My discussion is at Part II here. 

Proposal: Optimizing Taxi Services in Discovery BayEnhancing Community Accessibility
Prepared by: Hong Kong Resort Company Limited (HK Resort)
PurposeThis document introduces to residents the proposal by Hong Kong Resort Company Limited (referred to as "HK Resort") to:
  • Revoke the existing taxi prohibited zones in Discovery Bay
  • Establish four new taxi stands within the area
  • Comprehensively upgrade road safety management, including the latest AI-equipped monitoring systems
The goal is to improve taxi services, address the lack of point-to-point public transport, and better meet residents' daily transport needs — while soliciting valuable community feedback.Background
  1. The Discovery Bay Tunnel officially opened on 27 May 2000. Since then, public and private buses, goods vehicles (light, medium, and heavy), articulated vehicles, and government vehicles have been permitted to enter Discovery Bay from Cheung Tung Road via the tunnel.
  2. Since 26 October 2014, urban and Lantau taxis have been allowed to enter the Discovery Bay North Yi Pak area via the tunnel. This arrangement has operated smoothly. Records from 2020–2025 show approximately six minor traffic incidents involving taxis per year in Discovery Bay, with no serious injuries or fatalities reported.
  3. With ongoing community development and an aging population, residents' transport needs have increased significantly. Taxis have become an indispensable mode of public transport for many residents and visitors.
  4. However, the current limitation — with taxi stands located only in Discovery Bay North — requires passengers to walk long distances or transfer to local buses to reach other areas. This creates major inconvenience, especially for:
    • The elderly
    • People with mobility difficulties
    • Caregivers with children
    • Travellers with large luggage
    • Late-night commuters
    The community has raised these concerns for many years. Representatives from Discovery Bay, Peng Chau, and Nim Shue Wan have collected approximately 4,000 citizens' signatures urging the government to improve taxi services and provide better point-to-point public transport options.
Response to Community NeedsIn response to these urgent needs, HK Resort has:
  • Proactively engaged relevant government departments to explore feasibility options
  • Commissioned Ove Arup & Partners Hong Kong Limited (the "Consultant") to conduct a professional Traffic Impact Assessment (TIA) Report
    (Summary of key points → see Appendix A in original document)
Key Proposals(i) Revocation of Existing Taxi Prohibited Zones in Discovery BayPermission will be granted for urban taxis and Lantau taxis to enter additional areas of Discovery Bay and provide point-to-point pickup and drop-off services. Passengers will be allowed to board and alight at any permitted location within the expanded access area.In view of the expanded access, it is preliminarily proposed to extend the maximum taxi waiting time from the current 45 minutes to 60 minutes.(ii) Establishment of Four New Taxi StandsIn addition to the existing taxi stand in Discovery Bay North, four new taxi stands will be introduced in phases in Discovery Bay South at the following locations:
  1. Adjacent to the Discovery Bay Fire Station
  2. Nim Shue Wan KaitO Pier
  3. Discovery Bay Golf Club
  4. Discovery Bay Multi-Recreation Centre (under construction)
(Proposed locations shown in Appendix B of the original document)Both urban and Lantau taxis will be permitted to wait briefly at these stands, similar to the current operation at the Discovery Bay North stand.This proposal was positively discussed at:
  • Discovery Bay North City Owners’ Committee meeting – January 2024
  • Discovery Bay City Owners’ Committee meeting – March 2025
  • Discovery Bay Passenger Liaison Group meeting – March 2025
(iii) Comprehensive Road Safety Management and AI Monitoring SystemDiscovery Bay Services Management Limited (the "Management Company") continues to strengthen traffic management to meet growing community needs.
  • Since Q1 2025, AI-equipped monitoring systems have been installed on major traffic routes in Discovery Bay to detect in real time:
    • Speeding
    • Illegal overtaking
    • Illegal parking
    • Other dangerous driving behaviours
  • In response to the expanded taxi access, the Management Company will:
    • Deploy additional security personnel
    • Implement 24-hour duty shifts
    • Conduct patrols of main roads at least 6 times daily
    • Perform speed checks 4 times daily
    • Use AI monitoring to enable rapid response (personnel can arrive within minutes of detecting violations)
  • For traffic violations (e.g. dangerous driving, careless driving, illegal parking causing obstruction, speeding, crossing double white lines, etc.):
    • Verbal and written warnings will be issued
    • Records will be kept
    • Repeated violations will be forwarded to the Police for follow-up
  • Under current rules:
    • 2 violations within any 3-month period, or
    • 3 violations within any 12-month period
      → The vehicle (including taxis) will be banned from entering Discovery Bay for 12 months
  • The Management Company will maintain close cooperation with the Police, adopting a dual-track enforcement strategy to rigorously combat violations and safeguard road safety for all users.