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How Winston came into the picture is that he recommended the book to his followers. He was then promptly driven out of the rather famous band that he was founding member of -- Mumford & Sons. He's since made this online career for himself.
A lot of things I didn't know, come out of the above video, for me.
Like:
Trans are only around just under 1% of the population, but they were around 15% of the arrestees during the 2020 BLM riots around the US.
They are a major part of those identified in recent bombings, burnings and shootings of Tesla building and cares.
I didn't know about this Zizian gang. Like a kind of Manson Family, for Trans.
I didn't know that the violent Trans, of which there seems to be lots, are disproportionately smart, top-end academically. Some folks like that make stuff, like Elon Musk. Some folks like that destroy stuff, like the Zizi dude.
This is all like a resurgence of the crazies during the middle of the last century. The Baader-Meinhof gang in Germany, the Red Brigades in Italy, the xxx in Japan, the Weather Underground in the US. All returning, with a vengeance, and with souped up tools via the internet.
From the intro:
Anti-Elon Musk arson and vandalism targeting Tesla’s have erupted up and down America and across the world. Far Left anarchism is back.And it turns out that Trans are over represented amongst alleged perpetrators. Or as journalist Andy Ngo calls them: Trantifa.Andy Ngo, a journalist and author, discussed the rise of far-left extremism, particularly the over-representation of transgender individuals in recent attacks on Tesla dealerships across the U.S., Canada, and Europe. Ngo highlights that these attacks, which include arson and bombings.With Winston they examine to what extent they are coordinated, by Dogequest for example.Andy also detailed the Zizians, a transgender, transhumanist, rationalist cult linked to multiple violent deaths, including the murder of a Border Patrol agent and a double homicide.Ngo criticises the mainstream media for downplaying the ideological aspects of these extremist groups and their transgender identities.And Winston and Andy discuss how their lives have become entangled.
Some more about Winston and Andy's relationship, below the fold:
Winston Marshall, the former banjoist and guitarist of the band Mumford & Sons, and Andy Ngo, a controversial conservative journalist, became publicly linked due to a significant event in 2021. Their relationship, as far as it is known, stems primarily from Marshall’s public endorsement of Ngo’s book, Unmasked: Inside Antifa’s Radical Plan to Destroy Democracy. In March 2021, Marshall tweeted:“Congratulations @MrAndyNgo.Finally had the time to read your important book. You’re a brave man,”
sparking a firestorm of backlash from fans and the public.
This tweet led to widespread criticism, with some accusing Marshall of supporting far-right ideologies due to Ngo’s reputation for his critical reporting on leftist groups like Antifa, often viewed as selective or provocative by his detractors.
The fallout from this endorsement was swift and severe. Marshall faced intense online criticism, which he later described as reaching “another level” of abuse, affecting not only him but also his bandmates and friends. Initially, he apologized and announced a temporary hiatus from Mumford & Sons to “examine [his] blindspots,” but by June 2021, he decided to leave the band permanently. In a Medium post, Marshall explained that he could not continue to self-censor his views and felt that staying would unfairly implicate his bandmates in further controversy. He emphasized that his praise for Ngo’s book was not an endorsement of far-right extremism, citing his family’s history with the Holocaust to underline his rejection of fascism, but rather a recognition of Ngo’s bravery in reporting on a contentious topic.
Since then, Marshall and Ngo have maintained some level of connection, though it appears to be more professional or ideological than personal. In a notable development, on March 23, 2025 (the current date), Marshall posted on X about a new episode of his podcast featuring Ngo, titled “The Rise of Trantifa and the return of far-left anarchism in America.” He noted it was “the first time we’ve done media together since that tweet,” suggesting that while their initial interaction was a single point of contact (the 2021 tweet), they have since collaborated at least once more in a public-facing capacity. This collaboration indicates a continued alignment or mutual interest in discussing topics related to far-left movements, consistent with Ngo’s journalistic focus and Marshall’s post-Mumford shift toward speaking freely on controversial issues.
Beyond this, there’s no evidence of a deep personal relationship—such as regular interactions or a longstanding friendship—between the two. Their connection seems rooted in that pivotal 2021 moment, which significantly altered Marshall’s career trajectory, leading him to leave Mumford & Sons and pursue independent projects, including writing and speaking on political and cultural matters. Ngo, meanwhile, has continued his work, often referencing the incident as an example of “cancel culture” affecting those who engage with his material. The relationship, therefore, is best characterized as a notable intersection of their public personas, driven by Marshall’s support for Ngo’s work and the ensuing consequences.