"Certainty brings Insanity"

An Occasional Reader accused me recently of being one of the 100% certain people.  I am one of "the stupid" according to a Bertrand Russell meme this Reader helpfully included. Or I'm "the worst" according to Yeats, below.

Of all the things that I'm roooly, roooly sensitive about being accused, perhaps being a "Certaint-ist" is one of the very worst. Right up there with being accused, by AI algos of being a "Luddite". 

Yet I often quote the W.B.Yeats line from "The Second Coming", one of the few I've committed to memory: 

"The best lack all conviction, while the worst 

Are full of passionate intensity."

Clearly quote this because I see myself as "lacking conviction", even if not all. I mean, lacking conviction, as in "not certain", absolutely not 100% convinced of a thing. 

Though of course having "passionate intensity" may not be a bad thing at all. One might not be all all "the worst" for having it, so it's a nuanced thing. But that's another issue. 

I repost my post from 22nd July, 2022, "Certainty brings insanity". And republish below:

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From Ann Althouse [*], I learn about the three Delphic Maxims. Shouldn’t I have known about these before? 

Does not knowing the Delphic Maxims make me an ignorant 72-year old? Or does is just mean I’m following Mao Tse-Tung, who said: “Live to old age; study to old age” (活到老学到老 Huo dao lao, Xue dao lao)?

Anyway, I do like them. All three, which are:

• “Know thyself”
• “Nothing in excess”
• “Certainty brings insanity”

I like that last one, which would be my answer to one of those quizzes “what’s your favourite hate?”. 

Which I’ve always thought my “favourite hate” is: “Blind Faith”. As in W. B. Yeats from “The Second Coming”:

“The best lack all conviction, 

the worst are full of passionate intensity”. 

Like religious nutters. Who will kill themselves while murdering innocents. How can we deal with those blinded by faith? Who have no time for other ideas, who are made crazy by absolute certainty?

As we see on the far Left and the far Right.

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[*] Ann Althouse, 22nd July, 2022:

That's a cute little BBC animation that I found after that Bret Stephens column — blogged here — made me think about the old aphorism "Know thyself." Stephens was talking about the "self-satisfied elite" who didn't understand the point of view of the non-elite. It made me think: How dare these people regard themselves as elite if they are self-satisfied? They are not educated if they haven't looked into the functioning of their own mind, especially if they satisfy themselves with contempt for others.

Here's Wikipedia on "Know thyself":

The Ancient Greek aphorism "know thyself" (Greek: γνῶθι σεαυτόν, transliterated: gnōthi seauton...) is the first of three Delphic maxims inscribed in the forecourt of the Temple of Apollo at Delphi.... The two maxims that follow "know thyself" were "nothing to excess" and "certainty brings insanity." In Latin the phrase, "know thyself", is given as nosce te ipsum or temet nosce.

"Certainty brings insanity" is the least well-known of those aphorisms. It explains a lot!

Much more at that Wikipedia link, but — here — I'll just show  you this cool painting from the 1600s, inscribed with the Latin phrase [Nosce te Ipsum. Know thyself]:

Why Islam is not compatible with the West

The Short is here. 

Above: a short, simple and clear explanation. Why Islam is not compatible with the West.

By Benedict Beckeld.

Shorter Beckeld: Islam is both a proselytising religion, AND a political religion. In that, it’s unique amongst the Abrahamic religions. 

Christianity is proselytising, but not political. (Give unto Caesar what his Caesar's and unto God what is God's)

Judaism is political, but not proselytising. It's super-hard to convert to Judaism. 

Islam is both proselytising AND political. It's a totalitarian system of life. It's super-easy to convert to Islam. Once you're a Muslim you have a whole swathe of stuff you have to do, because you're Muslim. One of those is to try to convert those around you. If necessary, by war, by Jihad. 

THAT's why Islam is incompatible with western societies. Which make a clear and clean distinction between the Church and the State. Between what’s private between you and whatever god you believe in; and your public duties, rights and obligations. 

The ENTIRE history of Islam…

The ENTIRE history of Islam…in 68 minutes.

Dr William Federer knows how Islam and describes it well in this breezy lecture, above. 

He gets a bit Biblical at times and I could do without that. But I understand it and I’m fine with it. 

If Christianity was ever Martial, or if it ever was aggressively proselytising, it surely is not now. There’s just one Martial faith, just one aggressively proselytising religion in the world today, and that’s Dr Federer’s  topic: Islam. The history of.

In 68 minutes.

Islamisation of Britain: Complete

 

Andrew Gold talks to Dave Rubin in Hungary. I've followed Andrew for many years. He's sound; a good analyst.

When I started this blog, 17 years ago, I did a spreadsheet predicting the Islamisation of various countries of Europe. I thought the Scandinavian countries would be first, then Germany and France, then the U.K. And my guess was around the 2050s and 60s. 

It's happening now, much quicker than I thought. Much quicker than anyone thought. It's happening right in front of our eyes. There's even talk of civil war. 

When Andrew says "I don't know why people didn't see what happened in the Middle East" he's referring to is the Islamic conquests of all those countries. 

The Middle East is a lesson. No one learned it. 

Except that now a civil war may be imminent in Britain then Europe. Could it be? Or will it just be the crapification of Europe, as happened in all the Islamified countries of the Middle East? Not a one of which was made better by their submission to Allah. 

Those Islamic conquests across the Middle East are being replicated in Europe and the U.K.. When the Islamisation is complete, it's the whole Sharia law bit*. Women oppressed and in burkas, minorities oppressed, gays arrested or executed, churches and synagogues closed down, Jews and Christians, and even atheists, like me, driven out. 

Grim. Authoritarian. Theocratic. Anti-science. Anti-modernity. Anti-fun. 

ADDED: We here in Hong Kong are just fine on that front. We're not about to be Islamified. Our government won't put up with any nonsense on that front, giving in to Muslim demands to "respect Ramadan", or to "ban dogs". No way. And that's a comfort to me in my dotage. To know that we're safe from the ravages of rampant Islam. 

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*My handy reference guide. The authoritative "What Sharia says about...", based on the Classic Manual of Islamic Jurisprudence.

Included:

Adultery

Apostasy
Charity
Homosexuality
Jihad
Non-Muslims
Women

Wong Tai Sin Temple, Kowloon , Hong Kong 傅智彬

Jing, choosing a new Chinese name for John. From the soothsayers at the Temple: 傅智彬.  Fùzhìbīn.

Hong Kong 4 February 2011.

Italy -- Georgia Meloni -- stands up for western values. Yay!

Dr Steve Turley, above, on important developments in Italy. 

Georgia Meloni, PM of Italy, draws the line. We are Europe -- she says -- and we have our values. If you want to come here, you must adhere to those values, not those of your medieval ideology. 

Is it fair? You bet! And long overdue. Just look at Iran. Why are the people there uprising? Because they hate the ideology that they've been oppressed by since 1979. Where ex-Muslims are revolting, as Harris Sultan shows. Just the latest of 8 uprisings. Where over 12,000 have already been slaughtered by the regime. 

I do hope Trump does a Venezuela on it. (even though, as I write, he's toning down his tough talk. Don't go soft on us now, Donald!).

Italy -- Georgia Meloni -- is just trying NOT to be the next Iran. Trying NOT to be swallowed by fascistic Islamic ideology. 

Islam is most clearly a wicked ideology. 

It is an idology that is supremacist, homophobic, misogynist, racist, anti free speech, anti non-Muslims. Also: anti-drink, anti-music, anti-dance, anti-films, anti-women's hair. Pretty much anti everything that makes life worth living. (and that does include women's hair...).

You could argue people who adhere to this ideology should not even be allowed into our western countries. Or allowed into liberal Asia: Hong Kong, Singapore, Japan, Korea. I would argue that. I would happily take that side of a debate. 

But if you can't bring yourself to that level of discrimination, then at the very least we must follow the lead of cara Georgia. To say to these guests in our countries: 

"Very well, if you insist on moving to our countries, we expect that you follow our de-minimis demands. Do not insist on your own public oppressions. Oppressions of your women and ours. Oppressions of our rights to enjoy drink and music. Do not insist that your women dress in bags and cover their faces. Do not insist that we close our pubs. Do not insist that we follow Halal dietary cruelty. Do not insist we follow your Ramadan fasts. Do not insist that areas you've colonized are no-go 'Sharia Zones'.

"We're done. We will not stand for it."

Imagine. Italy being Roman! If you had to choose between living under the Roman Empire of the Islamic Caliphate, which would you choose? For me it's easy. It's Rome every time. Rome, aka the West, wins every time. 

It's too much to expect that what Georgia Meloni is doing will win out against the European Blob. The Blog of Angela von der Leyen. Or the Blobs of Macron and Merz. Or the Blob of Keir der Sturmer's Islamic Britain. Which are in thrall to the idea that the west is Bad and Islam is Good. Who are even more in thrall to the idea that the dollars flowing from Islamic regimes to the west are wery wery welcome. 

But still one can hope. It's Georgia, cara Georgia, who's given us that hope.

Auguri Georgia!  Auguri Bella!

ADDED: 

I thought Iran was majority Shia Muslim. Turns out that it's majority "Atheist, Agnostic or None", a total of 37%. That's the plurality, vs Shia Muslim at just 32%. The ancient traditional Persian religion of Zoroastrianism still has 7%, more than I'd've thought. (If you'd've asked me). 

Stats for 2020. I'll bet Iran's become even less Shia since then

Merry Christmas 2025

A quarter century already …

Christ and Muhammad, a history lesson | Brigitte Gabriel

 

On this day, the birth day of Christ, the prophet. And King. And consider what Muhammad took from the Old Testament to cobble together his “recitation”, his “Koran”. 

And of course a Merry Christmas to One and All! 🥂❤️🎉🎄

New Islamist terror threats. Turtle Island. Black Lotus

 

Christmas activities in Paris….. cancelled. Because of our “Diversity is our Strength” crowd. Yeah. Like Paris. Like Bondi beach, Sydney. What strength! What diversity! 

We are cowards for stopping Christmas activities. Because they’re “too expensive”. When they have the  money to host illegals, give them food and accommodations. They’ve got money for that. But not to protect our existing citizens. 

What is going on now, in Paris, in LA, in New York City, on Bondi Beach, all is the Global Intifada. This is it. It’s here. Yet the FBI says “our hands are full”.  There are so many threats to our society, by people we have deliberately brought it, that the FBI can't follow them all. 

Think on't. 

Tucker Carlson, Nick Fuentes and Candace Owens are vile Jew haters

 

Sadly I think there are some Occasional Readers of this blog who believe they have been "Red Pilled" by the recent Tucker Carlson. That is, the new Tucker who is an outright Jew-hater, who platforms fake historians who claim Churchill was worse than Hitler, who downplay the holocaust, who want a "war of annihilation against the Jews when we (fundamentalist Christians) take power", as Nick Fuentes does. But who are "red pilled" as in: they believe all this to be true. And the Red Pilling is that they've just found out.... so... wow!

But this is truly horrid stuff. I came out against Tucker Carlson and Candace Owens as soon as I saw their vile Jew hatred. Some others, sadly, see their turn-around as being "Red Pilled", believing they've learned that -- oh yeah! -- the Jews really do control everything. The Jews really are the cause of all wars in human history. It really is true that there can't have been 6 million murdered in the alleged Holocaust. The Jews really are vile creatures. And so on, and so, horridly, on.... 

This is the vilest of Jew hatred, the longest-running and bitterest of all hatreds. No one hates anyone as much as Jew-haters hate Jews. 

Says me, an atheist. A Goy. A Zionist. A philo-semite. 

Ben Shapiro does a complete takedown of Carlson and Owens and Fuentes, in the post by the "OtherBarak". 

The War Israel Won—and the One the West Is Losing | Douglas Murray

Over the past two years of war in the Middle East, I have often quoted the famous Prussian General Carl von Clausewitz. Among his most famous insights about the art of war was that an army should attack its opponent at its opponent’s center of gravity. On October 7, 2023, it appeared to me that Hamas had done what terrorist groups are so good at doing, which is to add a type of jujitsu into the art of war.

Today you do not attack your enemy at their center of gravity because if you do, in this non-Napoleonic era, you are likely to lose. Instead you try to unsettle your enemy’s advantages by tackling them at their weakest points—by hitting them at their most vulnerable place, throwing them off balance. That is what Hamas terrorists did two years ago this morning when they struck not the headquarters of the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) or the nuclear plant at Dimona, but peaceful kibbutzim and a dance party.

It has been my privilege during the past two years to spend a lot of my time with the people of Israel and with Jewish communities around the world. That has, among other things, given me the opportunity to rethink, listen to other voices, and make alterations or refinements to points I have tried to make. One such example came recently, after a woman who had read my book on this conflict reacted to my Clausewitz point. “You know, I think you’re wrong,” she said. “I think they did hit us in our center of gravity that day. Not in the military sense but in our soul.” And I think she was right.

Two years on from that day, similar attacks have happened again and again. When a young couple were shot to death on the streets of Washington, D.C., in May by a man shouting “Free Palestine,” the media focused on the fact that the two—Sarah Milgrim and Yaron Lischinsky—happened to be staffers at the Israeli embassy. The more salient point was that it could have been anyone who had been exiting the event they had been at. The event was being held at the Capital Jewish Museum. In Boulder, a Holocaust survivor was burned by an assailant with a flamethrower at a rally to secure the release of hostages. In April, Pennsylvania governor Josh Shapiro’s home was firebombed by a suspect motivated, he said, by what Shapiro wanted “to do to the Palestinian people.”

Countries that used to be seen as safe refuges for Jews—Australia, Canada—now see routine shootings and firebombings at yeshivas and synagogues, the vandalizing of Jewish-owned businesses, and repeated efforts to attack not the hardest possible targets but the softest and often the most meaningful ones.

A misogynistic death cult that oppresses its own people... Islam in the dock

Let me ask you a question, an honest question. How many Jewish terrorists have blown up stadiums full of excited, innocent teenagers in recent years? How many Jews have strapped bombs to their bodies and detonated them on Tube trains and buses?

How many Jewish paramilitaries have tortured or executed women for not wearing a headscarf, or for listening to music, or for daring to leave home without their husbands?

How many Jewish people have stabbed people peacefully going to their place of worship?

How many have flown aeroplanes into buildings full of innocent people? Driven cars into crowds of Christmas shoppers? Filmed themselves raping and mutilating ‘infidels’? Kidnapped entire schoolrooms of teenage girls and taken them as sex slaves?

Answer: none.

And here’s another. What is the common denominator in all these attacks?

The answer is radical Islam. The glorification of death in the pursuit of a global jihad; the branding of non-extremist Muslims as ‘apostates’; the rejection of Western culture, and in particular the rights of women and minorities; the belief that only an all-encompassing Islamic state ruled by Sharia law can be legitimate – and the pursuit of that state by any means necessary.

No other faith on this planet has such an agenda. The Catholic Church may have been guilty of similar crimes in the past, but those days are long gone. Certainly not Christianity in its current form.

And certainly not the Jews. All they are asking for is the right to exist, peacefully, to go about their business and practice their religion without being hounded out of existence. As they were in Europe in the 1930s. As they are being now, in the Middle East – but also, increasingly in traditional places of safety such as Britain and the US. 

What Kirk Assassination Reveals About Dems & Media | Mark Halperin

 

Thoughtful discussion of the issues around America, after the assassination of a hero of the Right. 

Dennis Prager remembers Charlie Kirk

 

What a wonderful and heartfelt homage to Charlie Kirk, from a close friend Dennis Prager, himself a wise man. 

Seminyak, Bali, Indonesia. May 2017

That’s us in 2017, and that’s one of Bali’s famous beaches, Seminyak. It doesn’t look much in this photo, I grant you. But further along, going north, the sands turn white, the waters blue and the surf’s up. Which was where we stayed, in the Bali Oberoi Hotel. 

Bali is one of the most peaceful parts of Indonesia. Bali bombings aside, of course. And that was carried out by votaries of my favourite religion (/sarc). Reason for Bali being peaceable? Its Hindu. The rest of Indonesia is Muslim. I leave that there for now. 

Usually it’s the other parts of Indonesia that have trouble. The parts that are Islamic, which is most of Indonesia. Anti -Chinese riots, for example. Or fighting for even stricter Sharia. 

Recent rioting is in the capital Jakarta is mainly against government corruption, I believe. That's all well and good, but there's an undertow of anti-Chinese hate. Mainly, like the similar hate against Jews, by Muslims against Chinese and, as with Jews, it's because they’re successful. 

The second morning of our stay at the Oberoi we took part in the once-a-year release of baby turtles into the sea. Tiny things no bigger than a table-coaster, dropped in to the surf, their tiny paddles twirling like propellers in the desperate push to open water. Where just one in a thousand of them will mature to the size of floating coffee tables, and only half of those 0.1%, the females, will make it back to this same Seminyak beach, to crawl up the sands, at night time, years later, to dig a hole in the dunes hidden in mangroves, to lay her dozens of soft-shelled eggs, to bring the process full circle.

Here in peaceful, Hindu, Bali.

"What terrifies me is if ISIS were to detonate a nuclear device..." | Norm Macdonald

Norm Macdonald (@normmacdonald) x.com

What terrifies me is if ISIS were to detonate a nuclear device and kill 50 million Americans. Imagine the backlash against peaceful Muslims?

"What terrifies me is if ISIS were to detonate a nuclear device..."

"... Imagine the backlash against peaceful Muslims?" is the punch. (Click image above for the Tweet)

The late, great comic Norm Macdonald, making fun of, mocking in fact, people who are are concerned more with alleged or feared "Islamophobia" in the wake of a Muslim terrorist attack, than they are for the victims themselves. 

We see that now with the Minnesota school shooting by a Trans Woman. That is to say, a man who believes he is a woman. He murdered two innocent ten year old school children in the midst of their prayers. He wounded nearly twenty others. The fact that he's trans is relevant, for it's part of who he is. It played a part in his "thinking",  such as it is, that he wrote down in a garbled manifesto. 

But the worry, the deep worry, the concern of the Mayor of Minneapolis and of the media was not for the lost lives of these young children and for their families. The concern was for the trans man, and worry that he might be "tarred with a bigoted brush". And thus fearsome attacks on all who dared to mention the fact that he's trans. Shaming them as "pointing fingers". And the mayor, Jacob Frey, says; "I worry about the trans kids". Huh! Not about the murdered children and their families. About the trans kids. 

This is both stupid and revolting. 

Stupid for the fact that it doesn't help us understand his motives. And revolting for their abandonment of murdered children and their grieving families. They even attacked that fact that they were praying. "What good did it do them?" they mocked. Shocking. Even to an atheist like me. 

If it's not Islamophobia trumping people killed by Islamic terror, then it's Transphobia trumping the murder of children. I've got Phobia-phobia. I'm sick to death of these made-up "phobias" that are made up to stop any criticism, made to stop even any informed analysis of why "some people do some things", to misquote the forever aggrieved Muslim member of Congress Ilhan Omar. 

Comments at the site of Norm's Tweet are interesting: 

Daniel Tweet here

"British Muslims Fear Repercussions Over Tomorrow's Train Bombing". 

And: "They literally did the Norm tweet":

Rosey Tweet here

Awesome Religion

https://www.jesusandmo.net/bed2/

No, religions are NOT "all the same". Islam is worse than all the rest, because it’s supremacist, misogynist, racist, homophobic, intolerant and anti free-speech. It is so in its doctrines and as manifested by the actions of its votaries.

But there is at least ONE way they are all the same: they’re all illogical. Like above.

And that’s Awesome!

"Tucker Carlson on Christians in Israel" | Ari Kozak

 

I watched some of the recent interview Tucker Carlson did with the nun from Judea and Samaria (aka the "West Bank"). It was horrid. She was horrid. Carlson was horrid.  

It was full of misinformation, malice and hate on Israel. While lauding the people — Palestinians — that have crushed the number of Christians in the very land she's spend the last two decades in. 

The stupidity is breathtaking. 

A jewish comedian, Ari Kozak, does a much better job than me, in mocking Carlson and this nun-who-looks-like-a-man. (She's supposed to be  George Stephanopoulos' sister. Brother maybe). 

Here's the Carslon interview. The counter to the Carlson with Dana Loesch, here. 

I’m a horrid right wing, extreme radical. Or something

An Occasional Reader (OR) has had a go at me and we’ve had some email to-and-fro. 

I’ve been accused of being more extreme, more radical, more right wing, more conservative, more evangelical even, than before. 

I asked for the receipts. What’s the evidence? Please tell me. I’m all ears. Honestly. We had a good discussion, quite friendly, if heated at times. Below is a kind of a summary, with the areas we discussed being first, then lower down things we didn’t discuss, but which I cover from time to time on this blog, and my position on them. 

I’ve had a look over some recent-ish posts of mine. I find I still agree with them. So there you are. I agree with myself. But also with Alexander Downer. Who’s definitely of the Right, but not a right-wing nutter. At least I don’t think so. And I agree with Christopher Hitchens. And Harris Sultan. And Ayaan Hirsi Ali. And Asra Nomani. And Brigitte Gabriel. And so many others on the "right", or the Common Sense brigade. The reality monsters. The radical reality-based folx. 

Here we go:

Evangelical Right:

First one is that I’m leaning to the Evangelical Right. How so? I ask given that I’m a life-long atheist. Quite radically, extremely so. Well, support for the anti-semitism bill running through congress. Well, say I, I’ve not posted anything about that, but as it happens I don’t support it. Mainly because it bumps another belief -- a radical, extreme one -- for Free Speech. I don’t think we should be mandating by law any restrictions on that. Not for Jews, not for Muslims. Not for Christians. 

Being More Anti-China: I plead guilty to this. But claim mitigation. That being that China has itself become rather more of a bully on the world stage in the last dozen years or so, what with the “Wolf Diplomacy” and the aggression in the South China Sea, so surely a fair person is allowed to be rather more robust in response. 

Being more critical of Islam: I plead no contest on this one. The whole reason for starting this blog was because I’d been reading about Islam and was troubled by its ideology. I still am. It may be that I make my points rather more directly. I hope I make them rather more clearly than I used to, otherwise, have I learned nothing in 15 years? I do think the threat of Islam, which is what I started writing about, is much worse much more quickly than I thought then. And so I quote regularly people  who know Islam from the inside out -- people like Ayaan Hirsi Ali. She herself has become more strident. Because the threat has chased her out of Somalia, then the Netherlands and then Britain. 

Being Super pro-Israel: To this I plead Guilty. And comfortably so. I’m inclined to say “proudly so”, but that doesn’t seem right. To me the issue of Israel vs Hamas is crystal clear. It’s crystal clear from having read widely on the subject. Not to the level of a professor. But certainly to the level beyond the average, and a country mile past the extraordinary ignorance of the students and street protesters. Hamas is an evil death cult. It has not a single redeeming feature, as a movement or as a people. (If there is One redeeming feature, I’m all ears). They don’t even value their babies. We tend to think all humans love their children. Not Hamas and the brainswashed Gazans who Love Death, Love Allah, more than they love their children who they are more than willing -- they are happy --  to offer to the Glory of Allah and the spread of Islam. 

While Israel is a democratic, free, liberal, inventive society that loves life. 

I have no problem making the distinction. It’s not “complicated” or “nuanced” to me. 

Being Super pro-Nuclear: Guilty as charged. And that makes me on the Right, as far as Australian politics is concerned. It’s a live issue in Australia right now. The split is the Leftish Labor Party is agains, the Centre Right Liberal Party is in favour. And so am I. And so are any folks who follow the science and are not fooled by such nonsense as “We don’t need nuclear in Australia because we have abundant sun and land"

Choice: didn’t discuss at all, but for the record, I’m pro Choice. A liberal view.

Gun control: didn’t discuss at all, but for the record, I’m ok with gun control. Just that by the evidence, it won’t do much good, given the number of guns already in the country. The data by state don’t have a strong correlation between high gun control states and lower gun crimes. 

Australia and China: I admit to being totally pro Australia whenever there’s something in the local press about an Australia China issue. The local SCMP will have a ton of comments whenever there’s an Oz-China issue, all in favour of China. I weigh in, in favour of Australia. Eg, on the issue of Australia demanding a full international investigation into the source of the Covid virus, and then China slapped on import bans on Australian minerals and seafood, I was (and remain) totally on Australia’s side. So, yes, guilty as charged on that one.

Free Speech: a dozen years ago in Oz, I was holding forth on NOT trying to ban “Hate Speech”. For that, by my sister, I was told: “my goodness, you’re becoming so conservative!” For standing for free speech. I’ve had other old, old friends accuse me -- “j’accuse -- of being a ‘free speech absolutist”. Again, guilty as charged. Australia is becoming a very censorious country, much more so than even the censorious Europe. I don’t like that. I’ve got more freedom of speech here in Hong Kong, than the have in Australia now. Colour me extreme and radical and horrid right wing for that one as well. 

Anti-semitism Bill: This I don’t agree with. So, if supporting that it right wing, then I’m Leftie on that

ADDED: About China and about Islam and about Russia or the Soviet Union, my beef is always with the ideology not the people. So I can say: I don't like Marxism-Leninism, or Maoism, but I do like the Chinese people. I don't like the ideology of Islam, but every Muslim I've ever met is a fine person. I don't like Leninism, or Putinism, but the Russians are fun people. Always the ideology. We ought be able to criticise the ideology. Always. Which is why it's wrong to have a "Hate speech" tie to "Islamophobia". No... we must be able to criticise Islam. Just as we do Christianity. Or Communism. Or Nazism.  

whip

 

You shouldn't flip tables, Jesus.